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    My close friend joined this buddhist sect from Seattle WA sometime ago and ever since she joined she’s been acting really weird. She would chant her master (Grand Master Sheng-Yen Lu)’s mantra WHENEVER there’s any problems. The problem is IT NEVER WORKS! For example she’s really into the stock market and just a couple days ago she had a stock that was dropping like mad and she just sits there chanting her master’s mantra hoping it would come back up! I was so fed up with her weirdness I decided to do some research on my own about True Buddha School. What I found out was truly mindboggling. It turns out her master was accused of rape by his disciples. Please see this link and make your own judgements: http://www.shcstory.com/mystory.html Apparently Sheng-Yen Lu is from Taiwan and a self-proclaimed reincarnated LIVING BUDDHA! However no Rinpoche from any of the REAL tibetan tantric buddhist sects acknowledges him. Someone please help me talk some sense to my friend.

Can someone please tell me if True Buddha School is a cult or a legitimate Buddhist organization?

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    I’m a student of True Buddha School since 1991. I”m not only a disciple of Grand Master ShengYen Lu but also a disciple of H.H Sakya Trizin and Late Venerable GuanXuan. I’ve seen a lot of people practising the dharma without actually reading any one of the 200+ books written by GM ShengYen Lu. This of course leads to improper understanding and practises of the dharma. As mentioned, the heart mantra is also like reciting buddha names in the pure land sect. It’s not a tool to solve your problem or any other magical spells. It’s a medicine to your mind. The only difference between buddha name and heart mantra is. One is reciting the name of the buddha sambhogakaya, the illusious light body while the mantra is the buddha essence. We are just lay man not buddha to decide who is buddha or not as we don’t process the ultimate wisdom. Can you judge Jigong base on his character? Don’t judge other but look within to find the answer. Everything that we chant repeatly is to calm our mirror liked mind. Practise meditation to attain stillness so that our mirror will shine and the truth will emerge.
    In fact, there’s no one who can really tell you who is buddha or not. We are practising buddhism to attain enlightment not to prove to the world. So be it! If buddhism is easily understood then I’m a buddha now, Isn’t it? It’s sad to say that many people are spending time critising GM ShengYen Lu instead of spending time to practise the dharma one deem fits. Why create Karma for oneself?
    If you are interested in True Buddha School, there are more than 230 books available, go and read them without prejudice. Share it with the students there. There are about 5 millions disciples from True Buddha School, go to them if you’re in doubt.
    FYI, those scandals about GM are all fabricate including those photos (using adobe photoshop).
    Personally I’ve witness GM ShengYen Lu miracles a number of times. That maybe because I’m with gifted clairsentience since young.
    I hope those interested in True Buddha Dharma pracise it with diligence and right intention.
    Namo Amitabha.

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    Hey, the articles that you read are surely fake, it’s something called the haters. If you want to know more about it maybe you should read the content of the true Buddha society and the teachings that master sheng yen lu teaches and judge for yourself. I am 21 years old now and had been a disciple since I was young. News like ‘raping’ is definitely an easy way for others to ruin someone’s good reputation. So, I don’t want to tell you what to believe in but you have to research yourself and you’ll be surprise that true Buddha society is one of the best religion/guidance in life you can ever find.
    Jun

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    !!SevenLights!! Storm B.fireball226 Justsyd are obviously the same person. Do your even do your research before saying it is a cult.Lol. Look at some other comments and research yourself before saying something of your own opinion which is obviously bias and stupid.

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    FIRST OF ALL ,HOW CAN ONE FOLLOW A MASTER THAT EATS MEAT?? THAT IS AGAINST THE FIRST RULE OF TEACHINGS. A REAL BUDDHA WILL GIVE HIS BODY FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS,. SECOND, HOW CAN ONE PRAY TO THIS SELF PROCLAIMED LIVING OR REINCARNATION OF BUDDHA OR WHATEVER…. Haahhaha….WHY DONT WE PRAY TO THE ALREADY ESTABLISHED BUDDHA, INSTEAD OF THIS SELF PROCLAIMED BUDDHA. WHAT A JOKE. ALSO TO THINK THAT THERE ARE THOSE THAT DOES THAT IS REALLY UNTHINKABLE.

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    Buddhas and Bodhisattvas don’t need food and drink of course, but it’s a long standing tradition in Buddhism to make offerings to them of food, drink, lamps, incense, etc., because this fosters a spirit of giving in the giver and helps to create a “bond” between Buddhist practitioners and Buddhas that they might feel an affinity for, etc. It’s believed that the spiritual “essence” of such things reaches the intended recipients, and Buddhists will often dedicate any merit that they might receive from good acts like this to the benefit of ALL sentient beings.

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    Totally agree. First even the name is wrong , why name your school true Buddha? Are there fake Buddha’s? You dont even understand the word Buddha , BUddha is BUddha, There’s no fake or true. Buddha means Enlightened one , if YOU are enlightened then there’s no true or false in fact you go beyond that so how can there be any true or false. When reading articles all he talked about is self praising himself whether directly or indirectly. Its like reading fairy tales. But there’s one thing he manage to did well and that is introduce people to Buddhism and did lots of charities then again Bill Gate charities are no less and if you are a master of Vajrayana then you must show humility . Look at the way he dresses so many ornaments and rings ! It portrays vanity.

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    True Buddha is short for
    True Instrinsic Buddha Essence. This Buddha Nature exists in all of us.
    It does not mean fake/ true buddha.

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    Eating Meat does not mean you are not real practicing Buddhist. Being vegetarian does not mean that you are a better Buddhist.
    Actually before Shakymuni Buddha ( the real Buddha as you referred), there has been endless numbers of Buddhas. After Shakymuni Buddha, there endless numbers to come..
    (as written in heart sutra, Buddhas of the ten directions from the past, present, and future)
    Hopefully one day you become a Buddha, then you realize what you what you have written.

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    Killing and Eating are two differently issues.
    1st precept – do not kill. You do not want to kill is because you do not want to create a bad affinity with that sentient being in the future.
    As per eating, we should refrain from eating 3 kinds of meat.
    1. Meat you have killed.
    2. Meat you have HEARD that someone has killed.
    3. Meat that been killed on behalf of you.
    In tantric Buddhism, cultivators generally chant the following before eating:
    1. Food Purification Mantra ( one of manjurshiri bodhisattva mantra)
    2. Great Mandala Offering Mantra to offer to the Buddhas, bodhisattvas, dharma protectors etc

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    – Be aware of all superstitious and deviant paths under the disguise of Buddhism.
    – Trust only recognized and authentic Buddhist texts from recognized and authentic Buddhist teachers!
    – Bevor accepting a teacher, get a deeper understanding about authentic Buddhism to avoid being led astray!
    – Check out your own motivation why you are attracted by a certain master and check out his background!
    – Be aware of people with the so called “son of the gods” complex!
    – Buddhists do not worship ordinary persons who declare themselves to be a Buddha!
    – The notion of a self – thus ideas like “I, the living Buddha”, “my”, “the best”, “the most”, “the highest”, “the truest” – form the very bedrock of delusion and are the opposite of realization.
    – Buddhism is about dismantling the self, not aggrandizing it.
    – The only purpose of Buddhist teachings is to reduce your ego.
    – If someone has an overinflated ego and excessive pride then he/she is simply not enlightened and not a full Buddha.
    – Avoid all so called “masters” who are infatuated with and are boasting of their achievements!
    – Alleged miracles are not evidence of enlightenment.
    – Super knowledge, various kinds of visionary experiences, clairvoyance, paranormal capabilities and miraculous powers are only superficial qualities and not the ultimate result of complete enlightenment.
    – According to Buddhist scriptures, if someone pretends to be an enlightened Buddha he creates the most severe karma. They are ruining the teachings of the Buddha and create disaster for themselves and others.
    – Following a charlatan creates immense suffering!
    – Never make visionary experiences public or brag about it!
    – Visionary experiences may be created by your own ego!
    – If you have not yet completely conquered your ego and have not yet gained mastery over your own mind, there is a real danger that also demonic obstructors or karmic creditors may enter your visions, even in the appearance of a Buddha, to harm you.
    – At the end all phenomena are created by your own mind and should be seen as illusory!
    – Clarify all your spiritual responses and yogic powers with an accomplished master!
    – Never practice for your own gain, wealth and fame.
    – Imagine having intense longing for a spiritual path, meeting somebody who seems very charismatic, who says all kinds of profound and unusual things, but deep down has none of the qualities that a qualified spiritual friend should have. You follow him or her sincerely for a long time until you discover just before you die that your teacher is a complete fake and charlatan. Imagine what regret will overcome you.”
    – If your purpose for meditation is to stay healthy, become rich and famous, have success in your career and all undertakings or for control of natural elements such as wind and rain, then your meditation is impure. If you meditate on these things you reinforce your desires about it and that creates further karma and will influence your rebirth bringing you farther away from Buddhism and the goal of becoming enlightened.

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    Through practicing the instructions you may have conditioned super knowledge and various kinds of visionary experiences. Many meditators, who at this point do not connect with an experienced master, become infatuated with these seemingly good qualities. They intoxicate themselves with the poison of pride, boasting of their clairvoyance and miraculous powers not knowing that these are only relative or superficial qualities and not the ultimate result of complete enlightenment. Ordinary people who don’t have a deeper understanding, believe that these meditators are perfected masters who have achieved a high degree of physical as well as spiritual perfection and paranormal capabilities or enlightenment. And that leads to the danger of creating disaster for both self and others. So be careful. excerpt from “Heart Lamp” Tsele Natsok Rangdrol

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    – Be aware of all superstitious and deviant paths under the disguise of Buddhism.
    – Trust only recognized and authentic Buddhist texts from recognized and authentic Buddhist teachers!
    – Before accepting a teacher, get a deeper understanding about authentic Buddhism to avoid being led astray!
    – Check out your own motivation why you are attracted by a certain master and check out his background!
    – Be aware of people with the so called “son of the gods” complex!
    – Buddhists do not worship ordinary persons who declare themselves to be a Buddha!
    – The notion of a self – thus ideas like “I, the living Buddha”, “my”, “the best”, “the most”, “the highest”, “the truest” – form the very bedrock of delusion and are the opposite of realization.
    – Buddhism is about dismantling the self, not aggrandizing it.
    – The only purpose of Buddhist teachings is to reduce your ego.
    – If someone has an overinflated ego and excessive pride then he/she is simply not enlightened and not a full Buddha.
    – Avoid all so called “masters” who are infatuated with and are boasting of their achievements!
    – Alleged miracles are not evidence of enlightenment.
    – Super knowledge, various kinds of visionary experiences, clairvoyance, paranormal capabilities and miraculous powers are only superficial qualities and not the ultimate result of complete enlightenment.
    – According to Buddhist scriptures, if someone pretends to be an enlightened Buddha he creates the most severe karma. They are ruining the teachings of the Buddha and create disaster for themselves and others.
    – Following a charlatan creates immense suffering!
    – Never make visionary experiences public or brag about it!
    – Visionary experiences may be created by your own ego!
    – If you have not yet completely conquered your ego and have not yet gained mastery over your own mind, there is a real danger that also demonic obstructers or karmic creditors may enter your visions, even in the appearance of a Buddha, to harm you.
    – At the end all phenomena are created by your own mind and should be seen as illusory!
    – Clarify all your spiritual responses and yogic powers with an accomplished master!
    – Never practice for your own gain, wealth and fame.
    – Imagine having intense longing for a spiritual path, meeting somebody who seems very charismatic, who says all kinds of profound and unusual things, but deep down has none of the qualities that a qualified spiritual friend should have. You follow him or her sincerely for a long time until you discover just before you die that your teacher is a complete fake and charlatan. Imagine what regret will overcome you.
    – If your purpose for meditation is to stay healthy, become rich and famous, have success in your career and all undertakings or for control of natural elements such as wind and rain, then your meditation is impure. If you meditate on these things you reinforce your desires about it and that creates further karma and will influence your rebirth bringing you farther away from Buddhism and the goal of becoming enlightened.

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    Well, i really strongly advice you to open your eyes, and just into your conscious and heart deep inside, the basic of buddha teaching the basic of all.
    A master or buddhist monk as simple as it is, is not about the outlook and appearance, but how he or she as a buddhist monk and so called “master” appear in public, a monk or master do not appear in public with excessive luxury, like what we witness on this “master” of yours, plus you do not go swimming with ladies or women in bikini… OMG OMG what is that!!?? there are proves which i hav so disgusted with it already… no you don’t encourage Buddhist to eat meat, late Buddhas eat meat because they have been offered by people as an Dhana, as offering… a true master DO NOT claim HIMSELF as BUDDHA..!!! that is OUTRAGES… OMG pls wake up bruh… i believe u actually understand these simple things to witness if it is a true Buddhist master or monk… there are a lot of FAKE buddhist teaching in these world already, to notice a true buddhist teaching, its all in your heart, does your heart and conscious tells u something when u hear or see something s not right? Beware of FAKE Buddhist teaching.
    hope you wake up soon, Amitofo

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    Its not the name of the sect we r discussing about, but the whole action this master did, and the way he conduct it… i have dig out some of this master dark history and pictures, which i am so disgusted to see it again,
    a buddhist monk or master:
    1. DOES NOT CLAIM HIMSELF to be a LIVING BUDDHA.
    2. DOES NOT ENCOURAGE BUDDHIST to eat meat. ONly when the condition force them to do so.
    3. DOES NOT appear in EXCESSIVE LUXURY.
    4. DOES NOT go hav FUN like SWIMMING WITH LADIES in BIKINI ( i have seen these and i am so disgusted )
    5. what a monk should not do i think we know in our heart and conscious.
    http://exposgurubejat.weebly.com/foto.html
    http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Wisdom/31602855.html
    http://dhammacitta.org/forum/index.php?topic=21307.0
    check on these several fake buddhism teachings
    http://viewonbuddhism.org/controversy-controversial-teacher-group-center-questionable.html

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    Had been in this cult for more than a decade, following my mother when I was young. I am already out of it, and would like to advise those that are still inside. I admit we are the kind of hardcore family that will even spend money on tickets to ‘pursue’ him like a pop-star. Recently met a friend whose boyfriend and whole family had been inside for almost two decade, and she is joining it. Sadly, there is nothing i can do about it to stop her from going deeper. Suddenly got reminded of this and did a google search and here is where i landed. If not for this, I wouldn’t even be here writing this post over here. Think about it. Why would someone will even bother to frame him? Because somebody cares. Few years back, when news of his scandal broke out, I was like you all. In disbelief, thinking someone must be framing him. Coupled with his teachings, we are not supposed to even entertain this kind of thoughts ( im sure those who are inside will know what i mean, and many many bad ppl trying to frame the TRUE BUDDHA.) and it happens that he has to bi guan xiu lian at such a timing.(to avoid the police in actual fact). It was so obvious yet all of us didn’t suspect (or dare) to question ourselves at that ime. Not because we are stupid, but we are blinded by our hopes and beliefs, especially if we grew up with TBS. Number of years inside is not something to boast of even(doesn’t say about the truth), and when u decide to drop this heavy burden of yours someday, you might even feel ashamed. It should NEVER be a reason why you want to continue staying inside, and come on, face reality(even if u spend almost all ur life worshipping him). And you don’t have to feel stupid,learning is a part and parcel of life. Even many people of reputable status are still inside it, despite its blatant lies. Sun Wu Kong doesn’t even exist and can even interact with him, and not forgetting his famous drinking coffee with this and that buddha. BULLSHIT. Hope this helps, you can find this on google easily.

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    I’m a previous student of Zhen fo Zhong sheng yen lu, by the way I’m in Singapore. Had read lu book it’s all basically talk about all the freaking bitch stories about phenomenon .I also encounter spiritual phenomenon but ‘ that thing is a demonic being why? I use lu heart mantra and dedicated to my friend for merits increasing.it leads to killing the person life and make other people get into trouble.
    The another bad things happen is the more u cultivation and brought lottery. U will win the next day but the spirit trying to destroy your life. Lu indeed is (not) a real living Buddha but a witchcraft because ones u invite his mantra and learning his yoga it kills you slowly with his demonic spirit and can cause you to possession of committing suicide. This lu statue I had smash the statue into pieces when the Buddha eye is on.alot of true Buddha former student had make a police report against lu for his teaching and fake works

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    We ate meat but we didnt kill it or heard it being killed or saw it being killed, theres a lot of genre of Buddhism u should learn dude

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    Nice photoshops to fool the fools lmao..just saying no offense haha

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    I agree the grandmaster is no cult. He has master the color rays that us required for his ascension. He is an ascended master. I am. A master also but I am. Still. Undergoing initiations. I. Also. Understand from. The prime creator that the grandmaster will be my future mentor n I’ll be meeting him in two months. I have no affiliation with Buddhism n I been under the guidance of the archangels till now I need a mentor. You can. Not argue with people who do not believe. Just know what u believe is right because you have free will. Life is complicated by so many egotistical ways of people. The battles will never end. Work on urself n be the best that you can be then u can help others see the light. The truth will be the truth. The grandmaster deserve the title Buddha cuz it was given to him not that he proclaimed. I believe in him as I am. Also an ascending master. I connected with him esoteric all and I will become his disciple one day. I hope to see more masters come from him as he is doing a great job. His merits and his wife is just stupendous. They will be honored even after he ascends.

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    There are a couple of recurring themes among the comments here – people repeating criticisms they have heard elsewhere and/or with a limited understanding of Buddhist teachings.
    I recommend watching this series of videos, which disucss in detail why TBS is not a cult, and why Grandmaster Lu is the real deal.

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